I am scared as he goes out to meet Julia because what if it's all a set up to get him vaporized? She gave him a taste of real chocolate which sparked his memory and she said she had gotten it from the black market...which I have no idea what the "black market" is for sure. The name "black market" is ironic because black is usually dark, gloomy, whereas all the good stuff comes from there...example was butter that the people on the train talked about.
The people in this book are the complete antithesis of birds. They can sing whatever they want and go wherever they want and it doesn't matter. The people however, can not say what they want or feel or do what ever they want to do. Winston says, "Who knew? Perhaps the Party was rotten under the surface..." which we know they are "rotten" people...but didn't he realize that too? Then he says, "I hate purity, I hate goodness. I don't want any virtue to exist anywhere. I want everyone to be corrupt to the bone." and in reality everyone is corrupt even he is because he changes history which is very corrupt.
It is ironic that she works for the Junior Anti-Sex League and made porn and she likes to and does have sex for pleasure. When they meet and talk, until they see a telescreen or no noise, then they start right up where they left off, it reminds me of a robot, which is what they all pretty much are. He mentioned how he saw her after a bomb went off and he thought she was dead....could be foreshadowing?
One question I have about Julia is that if she doesn't remember anything before the war doesn't the government have her brainwashed? How does she like to have sex for pleasure when they were taught sex is bad? Then they explain that it is for rebellion...but still, how did she even know what pleasure was if it wasn't around her or taught to her at all?
Julia talked about how if sex were exciting no one would care about Big Brother, Three-Year Plans, and Two Minute Hate and I totally understand and it makes even more sense why they teach that sex is bad in the society they live in. Winston also says "in this game we're playing, we can't win," which is so true and it is sad.
I just thought of this so it's kind of random, but they met at a church to have sex....that is very ironic because it is against what churches teach.
I can't believe they went to the shop and rented the upstairs, so I know they're going to be caught because there's a telescreen hidden behind the painting. When the mouse appears, it's representing the Party members watching them like sneaky rats, sticking their nose in where it doesn't really HAVE to be. It's dramatic irony when she says she's going to clean the picture because we know that the telescreen is behind there.
Syme vanished, just like that, no one said much. I never thought of it just being Oceania dropping the bombs on themselves to keep everyone scared and alert and feel hatred toward their "enemies". I can't believe she doesn't really care that they're changing history and she says she just needs to know when to cheer and when to boo, which is so true. I think she doesn't care because she can't change what they are doing, she can't ever really get the truth back anyway....if she somehow miraculously did, she would be vaporized anyway. They also talk about everything the Party dislikes people to talk about and I want to be able to make them shut up because we know the Party is listening!!
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So I also wondered what the whole "black market" part meant it makes me very curious and I think it will come more into the book later on. The whole her being a bit of a sex freak bugs me too. It doesn't make sense that if she was never around it to begin with why does she do it so much and on top of that enjoy it.
I hadn't thought that the bomb going off could be foreshaddowing until you mentioned it and now I'm actually worried that something is going to happen to Julia.
I also agree that there are times when I just want them to be quiet because the party is listening. For example when they're in the room and Julia is saying where she got the coffee and other stuff, I worry that the party's going to come busting in at any moment.
I guess I never really thought about the irony of the "black market". All of the sweetest things Julia brings seem to be from a market that sounds dark and tainted.
It is ironic that they had sex in a church, too. Of course, the Bible states that, symbolically, the body is the temple of God (the Holy Spirit)...so technically no matter where they decide to "get jiggy wit it" as Jake would say, it's kind of like having sex in a church anyway since they are unmarried and a temple of God/house of God is pretty much the definition of a church...of course, the church they were in was run down and broken...perhaps symbolizing how their society and morals were? (I'm not sure exactly...)
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